Dr. Berg Interviews Siim Land on Fasting, Autophagy and More

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well hello everyone welcome back and today i have a very special guest Siim Land is actually here with us and he is an author of several books amazing books um specializing in autophagy which is what we’re going to talk about and fasting and keto he’s also a great content creator he’s a holistic health practitioner and he’s also a high performance coach so welcome uh sim how are you doing hey i’m doing really good i’m glad to talk with you excellent so um you are going to be speaking at our summit coming up so i’m very excited about that i already got your slides and uh um people are gonna be blown away and you the first thing i want to talk about is um you did you get into this topic of fasting because you had a personal problem or was it just you’re just interested in it uh i i never had like any health issues so i’ve basically been pretty healthy throughout my entire life but i got into intermittent fasting when i was uh doing you know weightlifting and bodybuilding in in high school so it kind of just became more of like a dieting tool and just a nutritional tool so i tried it out first and i just started enjoying it and then from the from there on i also just delved a lot into more of the research and i started writing about it in my blog which then turned into the youtube channel and several books and the podcasts interesting because usually in universities and they don’t really emphasize fasting or low carb it’s usually high carb right so you kind of just found out about it somehow yeah like i did my own like research on youtube and okay just discovered discovered like different uh and also like listening to different podcasts and learning about keto from there and just trying it out myself ah okay great awesome and um you also went to school for i think uh an anthropology right yeah yeah i it’s a bachelor’s degree in uh cultural anthropology did you get into you know ancient civilizations as far as what they ate back then did you was that a topic that was covered extensively or uh we we did have like a few modules about history and hunter gatherer specifically so yeah we did cover a lot like i remember like one of my uh essays final essays was on the topic of uh why the uh hunter-gatherers converted over into like the agriculture and uh that sort of thing and like kind of change the entire history so they say wow and it was it was quite fascinating actually that it wasn’t like this pre-planned thing or it wasn’t like a natural it wasn’t like a natural natural outgrowth of like uh evolution or society it was more like a coincidence because uh you know over like ten thousand years ago twenty thousand years ago the hunter-gatherer populations were already constantly moving in between being a hunter-gatherer for some seasons and for other seasons they were already growing crops so they just probably embraced this sort of like a very uh seasonal lifestyle and for some reason or in a very coincidental manner there was this during one period they they eventually um hunted out all of their uh most uh available game uh meet so to say they out hunted like this gazelle population there was also like a very cold season so there wasn’t uh a lot of food in in total so they were kind of forced into starting uh these small villages and uh then from there on the hunter or the farmers just had like a slight edge over the hunters because they were able to store food for much longer and therefore they just like out competed the hunters in a very coincidental manner wow fascinating did um is i wonder if there’s a lot of any data on the type of um the type of foods they ate back then as far as the hybrids that are now like let’s say fruits versus vegetables back then i mean you didn’t have watermelon you didn’t probably have these sweet apples like they had they probably had you know bitter wrappers is there any data on that i couldn’t find any actually uh well i’m pretty sure that the the foodies was like more fibrous uh less carbs less energy and total less sugar and yeah more like the harsher to digest i would imagine so um yeah like it’s so true that the apple or the um the watermelon is completely different uh nowadays than it was even just a few decades ago so uh like in the you know ten thousand years ago the foods were completely different wow and then what about um i’m sure like even the banana wasn’t that sweet back then yeah absolutely um now as far as there’s been some data on just out of curiosity the uh since you’re on the since you’re you’ve studied this what about the amount of um the quantity of potassium foods like vegetables is there data i i’ve heard references that uh sometimes they as much as um you know the month like 11 000 grams of potassium foods is that do you have any ever heard about that um i not really sure about that so like they probably wear it depends on the location as well so like if the population is more near to the equator then they would probably get more potassium from like fruits and vegetables and those things but and likewise all hunter gatherers did some form of uh foraging so they all got a little bit of potassium from those sources uh not sure if they got exactly like 11 000 um i wouldn’t imagine maybe you know probably changed throughout the seasons and changed also like on a daily daily basis is there and then one last question and then we’ll start our interview um what about um did you ever find any data in like the earliest um did they find any humans early on stuck in the ice that were preserved that um they were able to dissect in the stomach and see what they ate like the earliest uh man um well i i recall um one of the oldest like mummified humans the founding ice i think his name was like ozzy or something in in switzerland i think in the alps and he had like he had actually like a patch of uh some like mushrooms so you know in the mountains eating these medicinal mushrooms and different kinds of fungi is probably a really uh more easily eatable source of nutrition and i think you know the humans back then they ate you know whatever they could find so it probably consisted of both different kinds of roots and vegetables as well as meats and foul and fish even makes total sense okay great well thank you um so the first thing i want to do is i want to get into autophagy for those of you that are new it might be a new topic for those of you probably most of you know about it but can you give us a real basic uh kind of an idea of what autophagy is yeah sure like autophagy translates into self-eating and it’s describes this intracellular process where different particles and weaker components of the cell or dysfunctional components of the cell are being recycled and it even is involved in the immune system functioning and reducing or finding reactive oxygen species and pathogens so yeah it’s a very it’s a very intrinsic part of the functioning of the cell and there is always like some form of basal autophagy happening on a daily basis so you know fluctuates on depending on what you do but generally autophagy is more of like a response to some form of like a stress or like energy deficit so it gets activated primarily when you’re you know either fasting you’re restricting your calorie intake you’re doing some form of exercise or you’re exposed to some other kind of stress with even like you know even things like the emf or electromagnetic frequencies can turn on autophagy to a certain extent blue light does it and the sauna the cold a little bit so yeah it’s a it’s like a stress resp so like a cellular stress response and the main purpose is to yeah like just recycle kind of tighten the budget so to say recycle the the ingredients and the the components of the cell that aren’t necessary and that are just like unneeded interesting so i would imagine um in the area of can