Dr.Berg Interviews Dorian Greenow, CEO Of Keto Mojo

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hey everyone got a special guest today and he is the CEO and the founder of a company called keto mojo and that’s one of my favorite units I use it I promote it it’s one of the better ones because it has several things and that’s why I wanted to bring you on to kind of explain everyone what is it why is it different and what can you do that it’s different than other meters but when you’re when you’re doing keto or intermittent fasting it’s really really important to know where you’re at you know and also do testing especially in relationship to eating and I mean fasting the worst thing is like well it’s not working in my in ketosis am I not in ketosis and the other thing is when you actually do the urine strips people have a confusion about this like what’s the difference between a urine strip and actually a blood test you know at first you may show ketones in the urine but as soon as you become more efficient and you adapt you’re gonna want to get a unit that’s the blood type blood tests you can actually have a more accurate so why don’t we just just go ahead and address that point and then we’ll have a series of questions that I want to ask you yeah thank you dr. Burke for inviting me on so you know we have a phrase here at keto mojo that measurement is the first step that leads to control and once you can control something you can improve upon it so there are three types of ketones you’ve got acetyl acetate acetone and beta hydroxy butyrate so the acetyl acetate is what is spilled into the urine when you just mentioned when you are first starting and it’s very kind of like subjective you know like what shade of pink do I have and realize that you’re only measuring what was spilled over a period of time since you lost urinated and hydration can have effects on that so some of these dehydrated they’re going to look like wow I’m really deep from herbally it must be great but no you might actually just be a little bit dehydrated so acetone represent represents about 30% of the energy that’s available to the body and then he gets quick very volatile chemical that quickly gets shunted into beta-hydroxybutyrate which is far more a stable compound and that’s what we measure in blood and that represents about 70% of the energy that is available to to the body and so that’s why in all clinical trials and all studies they measure blood because the blood as a quantitative analysis and it matches to an international standard that is laid down for it the last method of testing is acetone which is which is done in the breath and we’ve seen we’ve seen the rise of different breath analyzers and that the challenge with those as much people don’t know that unless the sensor is replaceable in that if you’ve had any sugar alcohols in the last 60 minutes or chewing gum or alcohol itself and a variety of other things you can actually blow out that sensor because what you’re basically is coating the sensor with all the sugar alcohols that are on your breath not allowing the acetone to come on in and those breast senses were originally done for actually as breathalyzers fault for alcohol which is a much bigger if you will molecule and that’s the problem with those so you can end up there having just an expensive paperweight really on your desk so all studies all doctors all clinicians blood is definitely the way to go but with our meter we don’t do blood as well in the blood we’ve measured not only the ketones but the glucose as well as two strips to do that yeah that’s what that’s one of the things that when people get a meter they they do I do get the blood I get the ketone well this one actually does both which is really cool now you do need two different types of strips yeah so so yeah and using two ships you know if you’re only measuring one part you’re only seeing half the picture and you can actually you know first of all and the basic part is like how close am I getting to ketosis so measuring your ketones for that you see yourself gently rising up once you get to the threshold of 0. 5 millimoles that’s the threshold of nutritional ketosis and between 0. 5 and roughly 3 is sort of like the optimal zone higher isn’t is not necessarily better and don’t go chasing ketones out there you to work out what your bio individuality is and and to do that it sort of let get to learn what your baseline is so first you get the joy of the gamification if you will like how close am I getting to ketosis if you’re not getting there what’s going on in in your diet and what you are doing to help you that’s preventing you and that’s where glucose can come on in and I liked it you call it’s looting out your trigger foods so Glueck glucose moves really quickly in the body you know if you have ice cream or carbohydrates that very quickly within 60 minutes is going to be converted into glucose and then the body has to have an insulin response to that to manager otherwise you get diabetes so you will see your glucose spiked on up really quickly if you’ve had a food that contains glucose on it and then that can tell you pain maybe I should avoid that don’t generally keep weak say keep the the swings under 30 milligrams per deciliter for Americans well that’s roughly 1. 7 for Europeans and millimoles and glucose you want to keep those those Rises very kind of like small so that’s like number one you can do with a glucose drip and one point about that like the higher the higher the glucose reading the less ketones you’re gonna actually have because the body is going to be running on that glucose and not the ketones bingo it will preferentially say hey I’ve got to use the glucose and manage that which means it won’t produce anymore ketones and then you’ll slowly see your ketones drift down ketones move very very slowly you gotta think of them like a slow-moving Tortoise and the hare thing in that respect so the second thing you can do is I have a perp personally I have an issue with sugar alcohols sorbitol respiratory towles any of the towles what I find is I might not get that glycemic spike what I do so I find is that my my ketones start to drift down and what that tells me is I may not have been having a glycemic response glucose going up but might I have had an insulin response to those sugar alcohols and this is one of the things that really comes into play just because it says keto on the label doesn’t mean it’s keno for you everybody’s a little bit different in that respect and that’s why we relate to proteins about bio individuality you know one size does not fit all and you kind of like need to work out what right for you and your body some people have an issue with dairy - this is interesting so you have two things you have glucose you have insulin people have this idea that well glucose is the only thing that will stimulate insulin there’s actually non glucose things that can stimulate insulin even protein can do it so then the low fat protein like even whey protein so if the insulin goes up but your glucose doesn’t go up that’s gonna knock you out of ketosis as well so this is a great tool to be able to identify what foods Mike you can’t eat on your program and even with the Aquino Fritz so-called friendly foods you have people using multiple dextran dextrose Tex what else Lee is to use um tapioca starch like these yes yeah yeah all of those those fiber fillers can that can have an effect on some people but not on yeah I mean if you can get away with it like all power to you you know I mean I’ve tasted that a lot of the Congress is some of these keto foods and like I’m like mmm that sounds that’s so delicious but the things like probably eating entire plate cuz that’s what triggers me and so like I I personally steer clear from those and and do but you know the highest of desserts for me is strawberries and cream hey that’s great I I can do t