Programming Meme Review with George Hotz

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this is a review of programming memes with george hotz quick mention of two sponsors four sigmatic the maker of delicious mushroom coffee and public goods my go-to online store for minimalist household products and basic healthy food please check out these sponsors in the description to get a discount and to support this channel and now on to the memes let me ask you to do a meme review or inspect some printed black and white memes maybe give a rating of pass or fail like binary if if this is a win or a lose these are mostly from the programming subreddit you don’t like this one this doesn’t pass i mean you’re like i could do it straight up like pewdiepie meme review yeah there’s this this this meme gets a one out of ten this is too much text only half-assed looked already already too much attack are you gonna skip on the text well what am i going i yeah yeah i don’t know about this i think this this this plays on bad stereotypes is that all of memes i don’t know no i think no i think like now this one this meme’s much better okay never spend six minutes doing something by hand when you can spend six hours failing to automate it now this one i like cries in powershell are you doing a power shelf do you do that yourself like do you uh find yourself over automating of course i mean but you learn so much trying to automate you know you could spend six minutes just driving there instead of spending you know uh 10 years of your life trying to solve self-driving cars that’s true that’s the programming spirit of course i don’t know what that is you know it’s like you’re trying to overcome laziness you end up putting in way more effort to overcoming laziness than just overcoming it 78 000 up votes on that one jesus okay mine doesn’t have the oh wow oh that’s up there i say this just yeah this is why i trust programmers a lot more than i trust doctors it’s like you like googling you like uh doctors think they have some like like like some like divine wisdom because they went to med school for a few years i’m like yeah dude i understand i didn’t google this on webmd actually like i read these three papers like you know yeah i think i remember once when i was uh let’s say drug shopping and um one of the doctors referred to adderall as a schedule b drug now i can’t you know correct this guy that’s drug seeking behavior to an extreme um schedule two it’s not schedule b but you know like your doctor you don’t you don’t know that the dea gave you a pad to prescribe you don’t know about the drug scheduling system like like yeah yeah programmers don’t don’t have that they just outsource you do you think that this becomes a problem if you outsource the entirety of your knowledge to stock overflow you write stuff from scratch pretty well yeah yeah yeah they asked me they asked me uh on instagram they were like what’s the integral of 2 to the x and i’m like look it up well the integral of e to the x is e to the x so it’s like something like that yeah the same with wolfe from alpha you just started looking it up [Laughter] yeah that’s pretty good that’s funny that’s the first thing that’s the first funny one you do you do testing you do like user on that user we give it a unit testing yeah we do use that too yeah we have we have our regression testing has gotten gotten a ton better in the last year um now we’re pretty confident if the test pass that at least it’s going to go into someone’s car and do something right versus in the past like sometimes we merge stuff in and then like one of the processes wouldn’t start right so you think that kind of testing is still really useful for for autonomously not as much unit but like some kind of um got better words today holistic like integration testing the thing runs yeah that it runs and that it runs in ci and that it like doesn’t output crazy values and then actually we wrote this we wrote this thing called process replay which just runs the processes and checks that they give the exact same outputs and you’re like this is a useless test uh because you know what if something changes well then we update the process we play hash right like this prevents you from if you’re doing something that you claim is a refactor this will pretty much you know it will check that it gives the exact same output every single time which is good and we’ve run that over like you know 60 minutes of driving but that one’s a win for you you get past the 10 yeah that’s an eight out of ten now you don’t give anything a ten out of ten that’s that’s a good meme um yeah yeah i mean you know this is why i don’t use ides that’s just this is true this is just true it’s nice i gotta say i mean this to me is kind of funny because it it’s so annoying it is so annoying when i do that’s why i’m still using emacs is because i d it’s like clippy on steroids it is of course uh they’re gonna make good ones though i i always still wanna this is a company i think i wanna do uh and i’ve trained i’ve trained uh uh language models on on python you can train these like big language models on python and they’ll do pretty good job like reading checking for bugs and stuff so yeah hope for that like machine learning approaches for improved ids yeah that’s very interesting yeah yeah but i think machine learning approaches for like improved like look at google’s uh auto suggestion in gmail yeah like um oh yeah that even like the dumb thing that it does is already awesome there’s a lot of like basic applications of like gpg three language model that might be kind of cool yeah i think that the idea that you’re going to somehow get gbt3s to replace customer service agents i mean really this reflects so badly on customer service agents and like why don’t you just give me access to whatever api you have you know i don’t know this this one is uh yeah i just saw a picture i actually wondered if it works at all that’s good that’s good [Music] the last line is good okay thanks bye no i’d rather you mine cryptocurrency in my browser than using my speakers yeah i feel that way about pop-ups too just anything i mean those you can at least block it’s like you know what the only thing i do want to auto play is like youtube what uh why do new sites start auto playing their news i don’t i don’t i don’t get i haven’t i haven’t been to a news site in years sure i do not read the news like like people like like i still hear about the news because people talk about it like i’ve never been to a news yeah who goes there who comes to these sites and in fact even on hacker news i’ll always avoid it if like the link is like a new york times or cnn or i guess i’ve read a few things um but yeah those like the pop-up news sites yeah those websites are broken somebody needs to fix it that’s at the core why journalism is broken actually it’s cause like the the revenue model is broken but actually the interface like it’s just like i i have to i can literally i want to pay the new york times in the wall street journal i want to pay them money but like they make it like to where i have to to click like so many times and they want to do you have to have a login and have a new york times password yes and also they’re doing the gym membership thing where they try to make you forget that you signed up for them god so that they charge you indefinitely like just be up front and let it be five bucks and then everybody would it’s your idea which is like just make it cheap accessible to everyone don’t try to do any tricks just make it a great product and yeah people like it everybody will love it yeah actually what i want to see also i’ve seen them start to exist is adblock that