Tim Dillon: Comedy, Power, Conspiracy Theories, and Freedom | Lex Fridman Podcast #156

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the following is a conversation with tim dillon a stand-up comedian who is fearless in challenging the norms of modern day’s social and political discourse quick mention of our sponsors netsuite business management software athletic greens all-in-one nutrition drink magic spoon low carb cereal better help online therapy and rev special tech service so the choice is business health sanity or transcripts choose wisely my friends and if you wish click the sponsor links below to get a discount at the support this podcast as a side note let me say that i will continue talking to scientists engineers historians mathematicians and so on but i will also talk to the people who jack kerouac called the mad ones in his book on the road that is one of my favorite books he wrote the only people for me are the mad ones the ones who are mad to live mad to talk mad to be saved desirous of everything at the same time the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing but burn burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue center light pop and everybody goes some of these conversations will be a bit of a gamble in that i have no idea how they will turn out but i’m willing to risk it for a chance at a bit of an adventure and i’m happy and honored that tim this time wanted to take a chance as well if you enjoy this thing subscribe on youtube review it up a podcast follow on spotify support it on patreon or connect with me on twitter at lex friedman and now here’s my conversation with tim dillon what would you like your tombstone to read it’s a good way to summarize the uh essence of a human being i would like it to say this has not been paid for and i want i want my my living relatives to struggle to to pay for it and i think i would like them to be hounded every day i would like people to call and go listen we don’t want to ever excavate a body but we will because this has not been paid for i i love the idea of leaving the world like debt leaving the world in in lots of debt that other people have to deal with yeah and i i know people that have done that and i know people that have been in families where that’s happened where someone has to sit and and just curse the sky because they don’t have a physical person anymore to be angry at and they but they still have to deal with the decisions that person made and that’s deeply tragic but that’s always struck me as very funny well it’s the kind of immortality the debt because you can if the debt lasts for a long time the anger lasts for a long time and then you’re now immortal in the minds of many you arouse emotion in the minds of many my mother’s best friend in the town i grew up and her husband shot himself in the the driveway and my mother’s friend never got a chance to just grieve because he owed so much money she would come over and go i hate him i fucking hate him and it was just such an interesting thing to see somebody who and her kids ended up getting angry at her for that because they didn’t understand why she would hate a guy who was clearly you know suffering and but she goes he took the selfish way out he fucked us and it was always interesting for me to uh just remember that like you can leave earth and still be a problem [Laughter] that’s kind of a special person so that’s i think what i’d like my tombstone to read yeah there’s a there’s a show called louie with lucy canada i’m aware of that there’s this moment i think where an old guy’s talking to louie about the best part about love is after you break up and it’s remembering that like remembering the good times and feeling that loss the pain of that loss the worst part about love is when you no longer feel that pain the pain of losing somebody lasts longer is more intense and lasts longer than the actual love so his argument was like the pain is the re is what love really is wow in the same way that anger your tombstone would arouse is will last longer and that’s that’s deeply like a human thing like why do we attach happiness to the way we should remember others it could be just anger i know so many people who will have deeply complicated feelings when i i you know i did drugs for many years so and i i spent time with some wild people and their parents were also wild people and some of their parents have done crazy things to them and you know have created situations that were not uh productive for child rearing yeah and so i know that when those people die it’s going to be a very mixed bag like there’s going to be a lot of complex emotions like hey we loved that guy but also when we look back uh he was a horrible father a horrible husband but he was fun and and and we don’t put enough stock in that but that will be a push and pull yeah and i’ll be the one kind of bringing up like hey he was a lot of fun yeah he was a lot remember when he he stuck us you know one of the things this particular person i’m talking about we were we were at a bar me and my friend were there we’re having dinner and his father who was you know an alcoholic and a a you know a guy that would go out every night and didn’t work you know refused to work would lie and say he was going to work and then go to a bar i mean just a fun person and uh he he we were sitting at this bar restaurant and the bartender we see his father walk up to the bartender and say pointed us pointed our table and go and put the thumbs up and the bartender nodded and then the father walked over to our table and he said listen i just want to let you know i just bought you dinner and i looked at his son i said he’s a pretty good guy and then he he climbed over the little fence down to the water and got his little boat it was a little cigarette boat and he just drove away and then about an hour later we uh we went we said i think uh that guy took care of the bill but she said well go talk to the bartender so we just walked to the bartender and he goes he handed us a bill and the bill was for like a thousand dollars and we said wait a minute what the hell is going on and he goes the guy that left an hour ago said you were going to take care of his bill he’s been drinking here all week and we go what are you talking about and he goes remember he pointed at you he put the thumbs up and you guys waved yeah you remember that and the guy and we went yeah and i just looked at my friends my friend and i went you know your dad is just we’re gonna remember him for all kinds of reasons but to you he was fun he was a lot of fun he wasn’t my dad but i spent a lot of time with him i was in two boating accidents with him you know two boating accidents all involved drugs yes he was usually alcohol was involved when he left his house um and when he was at home as well but i was in two boating accidents and do you know how fun someone has to be to get in a second boating accident do you know what a good time someone has to be yeah to get in a boat with them after you’ve already gotten in one wreck never get full to get what was that line george bush never get fooled again right yeah so if you’re getting fooled again you know there’s a reason for it but he was he was a fun guy he did have a death wish the second boating accident he grabbed me and said you can’t hang out with me anymore and i said why he goes i’m trying to kill myself and i was like oh and then i understood that like oh the fun under the fun lived a very destructive person who not only was destructive but wanted to die so speaking of fun people that want to die i i don’t know if you’re we can go hunter s thompson