Dr. Eric Berg & Professor Timothy Noakes On Ketogenic Diet, Weight Loss & Exercise Myths

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[Music] hey guys I have another special guest professor Noakes from South Africa South African scientist professor of exercise science and sports medicine author of many books that I have I’m really excited to talk to you today so welcome from South Africa what time is it over there right now just cause 2 o’clock in the afternoon oh wow ok so in what day is it I’ll have to think it’s Thursday okay got it ok great so um I want to first talk about you you at one point promoted the high carb diets for a while right tell me a little bit about yeah tell me a little bit about that and then I think what changed your mind so I started running in the late 1960s early 70s and I started my physiology training in medicine in 1970 and those that one of the first years that the new theory arose that muscle glycogen ie carbohydrates in the muscle was the single notice the single factor determining athletic performance Wow and that’s how it was projected to all of us and said I’m a young student studying physiology in medicine and I’m running marathons and I discovered this and it this is the most exciting piece of information I I heard in the whole medical training so I was started promoting this high carbohydrate diet in the 1980 1970s and I said then of course adopted that diet and then I went to did my medical training completed my medical training I was surrounded by cardiologists it was so telling us that if you eat fat you’re gonna die so I was gonna eat lots of carbohydrate and it was gonna make me run better well in fact it made me run worse and I got fatter and progressively sicker and then in 1970 1981 my father was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and he died 10 years later and eventually I discovered that I also had type 2 diabetes and I realized I’ve got 10 years to solve this problem or else I’m gonna die like he did and that fortunately he forced me to look very seriously into the what was going on in the evidence and I came across a book called the new Atkins for the new for a new year written by doctors Westman boney verlag and Finney and within two hours of reading that book I said oh my gosh I got it completely wrong for 33 years Wow in two hours I’d changed I started changing my diet and with the results were spectacular and I haven’t looked back for seven and a half years so that’s how it all started and then initially I was very reluctant say anything about it because I knew that their backlash and I knew that I would be vilified that I didn’t realize extent to which I’d be vilified cautious initially but then eventually it came out and then the problems arose and then my fat mine my colleagues attacked me and that’s been seven years of attacks yeah I I saw that that was ridiculous do you know do you find that um these the more educated someone is educated the harder it is for them to learn new concepts new ideas that’s a really good question what I discovered was that the academics in hospital practice are the ones who are most ingrained because they’ve been bought by the pharmaceutical industry and what they say is controlled by industry although they don’t understand it and so they are the ones who are really really tough the the guys aren’t in general practice the academics and that the the doctors in general practice are much more open because they’ve gotta treat patients and make them better but if you work in a hospital it actually the page you don’t have a sort of direct relationship you see all these thousands of people but you don’t have a direct person-to-person relationship with the individual patients but if you’re running your own private practice you do so so what’s going to happen is that the change is going to occur in in the private sector of medicine with where doctors have to face up to their patients but in the public sector there’s still a long way to go because there’s so much resistant to change oh yeah I know I run into it all the time I want to talk about your you wrote this book on water log which is faster than me because there’s this whole I don’t know it’s like one of those things that everyone knows that you need to drink a lot of water or drink or water keep drinking water where did this come from is it just made up that’s a great question because again when I started running we used to run marathons and you allowed one drink sort of thing that was what you Wow I can and and you had to provide your own own drinks and in fact that was one of the first things I also started activating on so when I was running I was telling the authorities now you must give us more drinks for our races and within ten years it changed dramatically and then from getting a drink every like 15 or 20 kilometers that’s what Aborigine was it came down to every mile every 1. 6 kilometers that you were drinking Wow and then then what happened was the sports drink industry took off and they made sure that they were gonna drive this and so various companies one in particular which we won’t name and shame at this stage because it’s fall in the book anyone can read it right but this one particular company realized that actually the marathon runners aren’t the ones you’re going to drink all their drinks it’s the person going to the gym and you’ve got to be able to tell the person going to the gym that if they do one minute exercise they could die if they don’t drink and that’s the message they got out Wow and it it’s unbelievable but they didn’t said that dehydration is a disease and it’s not it’s a biological response as you know they said the iteration is a disease and if you become dehydrated you can die and it’s going to affect your performance and so they Maynard managed to sell this to millions and millions and millions of people who working out in the gym for 10 minutes that they must drink a lot and so on and so that’s what happened but then when you transfer that to marathon running and you tell people to drink ahead of thirst and you provided so much fluid during these races because remember there was nowhere else in the world where you could get so much free fluid for the four or five hours that you ran a marathon you could drink and drink and drink and of course people over drank and and sundown and we predicted that it would be an American female runner who would die and that happened in 1993 it was absolutely as we had predicted Wow so so that was its again it was industry industry brainwashed people to believe and that’s again the problem we have with on nutrition story industry brainwashed us to believe certain things just simply not true okay for those of you are watching what we’re talking about is when you drink too much water you’re gonna dilute certain electrolytes specially potassium and what’s gonna happen is you need potassium for the heart to work to balance fluids in the brain so if you drink too much water it’s called hyponatremia right and your brain can swell it can really be dangerous and it can die and there at least 15 days in runners and triathletes and and particularly in the military which is really interesting because that the biggest incidence has been in the military and they finally finally find it this year so that we describe the condition in 1981 and now it’s 2018 the first time in in history the US military said if a patient comes in and you think they’ve got a heat illness and they confused you may not give them fluids until you measure the blood sodium concentration mother that in 1985 or 86 that’s how long it takes for change to occur so just so you guys know doctor Professor Noakes is the key the top researcher on this data exercise associated hyponatremia you’ve done us some articles on this research a lot right yeah we were the first to describe that it occurred in a lady in the 1981 comrades marathon which is a 90 kil